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, let's face facts the main idea of fighting forces is fighting. we place upon them this complex tax rebuilding csm we really have a plcy that at its foundation is we go into a country attack it, conquer it in the manner that the superior technology and our fighting forces, and then stay there and knit it back together? isn't that asking too much from these guys? >> i don't think so. they do what has to be done. you only fight to achieve an end. if you think about world war ii. everybody likes world war ii because it seems neat and clean and we won and it was over. i wasn't that way in reality. essentially counter insurgency was performed for a decade. the marshall plan was nothing more than helping europe regrow so that it would be protected against the growth of extremism and things. in reality, soldiers are natural people to help bind things back together. you fight when you have to but you solve the problem wherever you can. >> jon: can you stick around for a little bit? we'll go to
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